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	<title>Comments for Mercian Labels-a UK SME Label Printer on Open Source migration</title>
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	<description>This blog describes our journey through the migration process, and practical issues with running open source in a smal business environment</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 03:13:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on Ubuntu Hardy Heron upgrade, amazing in one way, great in many, BUT crazy and annoying in 1! by Adrian</title>
		<link>http://www.selfadhesivelabels.com/blog/2008/04/25/ubuntu-hardy-heron-upgrade-amazing-in-one-way-great-in-many-but-crazy-and-annoying-in-1/#comment-8318</link>
		<dc:creator>Adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 May 2008 09:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fair comments thank you.  I think that the google toolbar issue for Firefox 3beta is the crucial one right now, but nobody seems to know when G will release it.

As advocates and users of OSS, I would hope that G will address this very shortly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fair comments thank you.  I think that the google toolbar issue for Firefox 3beta is the crucial one right now, but nobody seems to know when G will release it.</p>
<p>As advocates and users of OSS, I would hope that G will address this very shortly.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ubuntu Hardy Heron upgrade, amazing in one way, great in many, BUT crazy and annoying in 1! by Ryan W</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can still get firefox 2 from the repos too. Just sudo apt-get install (or use synaptic) firefox-2 and firefox-2-gnome-support</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can still get firefox 2 from the repos too. Just sudo apt-get install (or use synaptic) firefox-2 and firefox-2-gnome-support</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ubuntu Hardy Heron upgrade, amazing in one way, great in many, BUT crazy and annoying in 1! by Nigel Morton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nigel Morton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to say that this must have been a difficult decision but, on balance, is probably right given that Firefox 3 is generally such an improvement. In the past, I've forced extension compatibility by changing 

extensions.checkCompatibility and
extensions.checkUpdateSecurity

to false in about:config. Obviously, this doesn't magically make extensions work but it does allow them to install. I've found few problems doing this but your mileage may vary in a big way!

Excellent blog, btw.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to say that this must have been a difficult decision but, on balance, is probably right given that Firefox 3 is generally such an improvement. In the past, I&#8217;ve forced extension compatibility by changing </p>
<p>extensions.checkCompatibility and<br />
extensions.checkUpdateSecurity</p>
<p>to false in about:config. Obviously, this doesn&#8217;t magically make extensions work but it does allow them to install. I&#8217;ve found few problems doing this but your mileage may vary in a big way!</p>
<p>Excellent blog, btw.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ubuntu Hardy Heron upgrade, amazing in one way, great in many, BUT crazy and annoying in 1! by Matthew Flaschen</title>
		<link>http://www.selfadhesivelabels.com/blog/2008/04/25/ubuntu-hardy-heron-upgrade-amazing-in-one-way-great-in-many-but-crazy-and-annoying-in-1/#comment-8247</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Flaschen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 08:17:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's Firefox 3 /because/ Heron is LTS.  Firefox 2 will soon be discontinued, which means it can't be included in an LTS release (LTS requires long-term support for all included software)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s Firefox 3 /because/ Heron is LTS.  Firefox 2 will soon be discontinued, which means it can&#8217;t be included in an LTS release (LTS requires long-term support for all included software)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ouch - using OpenOffice this week nearly 1) cost me £7,500 and 2) delayed a major deal&#8230; by The Open Sourcerer</title>
		<link>http://www.selfadhesivelabels.com/blog/2008/03/30/ouch-using-openoffice-this-week-nearly-1-cost-me-7500-and-2-delayed-a-major-deal/#comment-8224</link>
		<dc:creator>The Open Sourcerer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 20:17:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Kevin,

I think generally you are right, although I have had several conversations recently with solicitors (through networking events you understand!) who are saying Judges are now regularly allowing email and other electronic docs as evidence in court. So much busines is now done without any paper that it would be almost impossible not to allow it.

The recent ISO approval of PDF/A (an Archive format) is specifically for the long term storage and faithful reproduction of digital documentation. 

Of course, proving that the recipient actually received it is another matter entirely ;-)

Al</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Kevin,</p>
<p>I think generally you are right, although I have had several conversations recently with solicitors (through networking events you understand!) who are saying Judges are now regularly allowing email and other electronic docs as evidence in court. So much busines is now done without any paper that it would be almost impossible not to allow it.</p>
<p>The recent ISO approval of PDF/A (an Archive format) is specifically for the long term storage and faithful reproduction of digital documentation. </p>
<p>Of course, proving that the recipient actually received it is another matter entirely <img src='http://www.selfadhesivelabels.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Al</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ouch - using OpenOffice this week nearly 1) cost me £7,500 and 2) delayed a major deal&#8230; by Kevin Payne</title>
		<link>http://www.selfadhesivelabels.com/blog/2008/03/30/ouch-using-openoffice-this-week-nearly-1-cost-me-7500-and-2-delayed-a-major-deal/#comment-8147</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 23:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

I would support Paul Dadge's comments but for one thing - an electronic copy of a document is not legally worth anything, regardless of its contents or electronic format.

Having once worked for a consultancy firm (in Highways and Transport Infrastructure) I gather that the original document needs to be conveyed by post / courier and accepted by the recipient in order for it to have any legal recognition.  That consultancy firm once nearly had legal problems with a good and trusted client purely because they had Fax'd an A4 draft proposed solution to them on a problem they were working on.  One would have thought that one A4 Fax to another A4 Fax would have come out identical, but in fact it did not.   

As you unfortunately saw an electronic copy can often bear no resemblance to the original, and personally I do not think that any electronic Standard should be applied, whether it be Open Office, MS Office, PDF, or even any other format that could be thrown at ISO.  For business use I believe it should remain as the originally drawn up printed document handed over without any electronic intervention or conveyancing.

Kevin</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>I would support Paul Dadge&#8217;s comments but for one thing - an electronic copy of a document is not legally worth anything, regardless of its contents or electronic format.</p>
<p>Having once worked for a consultancy firm (in Highways and Transport Infrastructure) I gather that the original document needs to be conveyed by post / courier and accepted by the recipient in order for it to have any legal recognition.  That consultancy firm once nearly had legal problems with a good and trusted client purely because they had Fax&#8217;d an A4 draft proposed solution to them on a problem they were working on.  One would have thought that one A4 Fax to another A4 Fax would have come out identical, but in fact it did not.   </p>
<p>As you unfortunately saw an electronic copy can often bear no resemblance to the original, and personally I do not think that any electronic Standard should be applied, whether it be Open Office, MS Office, PDF, or even any other format that could be thrown at ISO.  For business use I believe it should remain as the originally drawn up printed document handed over without any electronic intervention or conveyancing.</p>
<p>Kevin</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ouch - using OpenOffice this week nearly 1) cost me £7,500 and 2) delayed a major deal&#8230; by Paul Dadge (PC Paramedics)</title>
		<link>http://www.selfadhesivelabels.com/blog/2008/03/30/ouch-using-openoffice-this-week-nearly-1-cost-me-7500-and-2-delayed-a-major-deal/#comment-8140</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Dadge (PC Paramedics)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 07:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there,

Firstly I read your article in the Express &#38; Star with interest and will follow your open source exploits with interest.

My opnion with regard to anything "legal" whether it be quotations, support contracts or invoices is always send as a PDF.  Not just for cross compatibility but more for the fact that they shouldn't be able to easily edit the document and "what you see is what you get".

Paul Dadge</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there,</p>
<p>Firstly I read your article in the Express &amp; Star with interest and will follow your open source exploits with interest.</p>
<p>My opnion with regard to anything &#8220;legal&#8221; whether it be quotations, support contracts or invoices is always send as a PDF.  Not just for cross compatibility but more for the fact that they shouldn&#8217;t be able to easily edit the document and &#8220;what you see is what you get&#8221;.</p>
<p>Paul Dadge</p>
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		<title>Comment on Ouch - using OpenOffice this week nearly 1) cost me £7,500 and 2) delayed a major deal&#8230; by The Open Sourcerer</title>
		<link>http://www.selfadhesivelabels.com/blog/2008/03/30/ouch-using-openoffice-this-week-nearly-1-cost-me-7500-and-2-delayed-a-major-deal/#comment-7960</link>
		<dc:creator>The Open Sourcerer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Mar 2008 20:43:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've not had that experience but I do see strange formatting sometimes - even from my wife (who I haven't yet converted due to her current paymaster).

I concur that pdf (An ISO standard BTW and one which passed in January this year with in almost absolute silence. Compare that to OOXML!) is the best way to send electronic docs that are not for editing.

And yes, one standard is the right way - even the WTO thinks so and may well end up having words with ISO about it... http://ec.europa.eu/idabc/en/document/7546/469</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve not had that experience but I do see strange formatting sometimes - even from my wife (who I haven&#8217;t yet converted due to her current paymaster).</p>
<p>I concur that pdf (An ISO standard BTW and one which passed in January this year with in almost absolute silence. Compare that to OOXML!) is the best way to send electronic docs that are not for editing.</p>
<p>And yes, one standard is the right way - even the WTO thinks so and may well end up having words with ISO about it&#8230; <a href="http://ec.europa.eu/idabc/en/document/7546/469" rel="nofollow">http://ec.europa.eu/idabc/en/document/7546/469</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Ouch - using OpenOffice this week nearly 1) cost me £7,500 and 2) delayed a major deal&#8230; by Matthew Flaschen</title>
		<link>http://www.selfadhesivelabels.com/blog/2008/03/30/ouch-using-openoffice-this-week-nearly-1-cost-me-7500-and-2-delayed-a-major-deal/#comment-7943</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Flaschen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 09:10:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear that you had those issues.  I think the solution in these cases would have been PDF, since if I understand right no editing was necessary on your end.  In general, I share your hope that ODF, already an open ISO standard, becomes the de facto industry choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear that you had those issues.  I think the solution in these cases would have been PDF, since if I understand right no editing was necessary on your end.  In general, I share your hope that ODF, already an open ISO standard, becomes the de facto industry choice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postgresql: Calculate work days (none weekend days) by TheJollyLabels</title>
		<link>http://www.selfadhesivelabels.com/blog/2008/02/15/postgresql-calculate-work-days-none-weekend-days/#comment-7754</link>
		<dc:creator>TheJollyLabels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 06 Mar 2008 12:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a test to prove that posting to blogs works, especially for terms such as &lt;a href="http://www.selfadhesivelabels.com" rel="nofollow"&gt;label printer&lt;/a&gt; ie Mercian Labels.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a test to prove that posting to blogs works, especially for terms such as <a href="http://www.selfadhesivelabels.com" rel="nofollow">label printer</a> ie Mercian Labels.</p>
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